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image 79 of 755 (Jalostotitlan marriage dispensation 1798)
The Padilla text description missed one generation on the Antonio Gonsales
portion of the dispensation for the Padilla family only. Corrections included
tha are based on other known dispensations, and are listed in italics and
underlined.
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Key info:
Padilla family:
Christoval Padilla/Luisa Gutierres were the parents of Francisco Padilla
(married to Maria Ana Munos), who was the father of Luis Francisco
Padilla (married to Fabiana Dias), who was the father of Prudencia Padilla
(married to Juan Lucas Gonsales), who were the parents of Antonio
Gonsales (groom).
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Christoval Padilla/Luisa Gutierres were also the parents of Josefa Padilla
(married to Jose Ximenes), who was the mother of Antonio Ximenes
(married to Luisa Aceves), who was the father of Rosalia Ximenes (married
to Juan Antonio Gutierres), who were the parents of Matia Gutierres (bride).
Gutierres family:
Christoval Gutierres/Maria Gonsales were the parents of Ana Gutierres
(married to Sebastian Gonsales), who was the mother of Rosa Gutierres
(married to Jose Antonio Gonsales), who was the mother of Juan Lucas
Gonsales (married to Prudencia Padilla), who were the parents of Antonio
Gutierres (groom).
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Christoval Gutierres/Maria Gonsales were also the parents of Jose Joaquin
Gutierres (married to Cecilia Martin), who was the father of Antonio
Gutierres (married to Catarina Ramires), who was the father of Juan Antonio
Gutierres (married to Rosalia Ximenes), who were the parents of Matia
Gutierres (bride).
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image 480 of 1484 (Jalostotitlan marriage dispensation 1806)
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Guadalajara > Diócesis de Guadalajara > image 327 of 753 (1793)
Marriage dispensation for Juan Antonio Gutierres and Maria de los
Dolores Ximenes
Key info:
Juan Antonio Gutierres (son of Antonio Abad Gutierres and Catarina
Ramires) was listed as the widow of Rosalia Ximenes (daughter of
Antonio Ximenes/Luisa Aceves), who had died in 1786 (Jalostotitlan).
Juan Antonio Gutierres was listed of the parish of Jalostotitlan, age 53
(born circa 1740).
Maria de los Dolores Ximenes (daughter of Juan de Dios Ximenes
de Castro and Luisa Padilla) was listed as the widow of Anocleto
Vasques who had died in 1786 (Jalostotitlan). Maria de los Dolores
Ximenes was listed of the parish of Jalostotitlan, age 40 (born circa
1753).
Note: Of the 3 Trees in this dispensa (Martin del Campo, Gutierres,
and Padilla) all except Martin del Campo tree have conflicts with other
dispensas.
The bride/groom and bride/grooms 1st wife were distantly related as
follows:
Martin tree:
Thomas Martin del Campo/Juana Flores were the parents of Clara
Martin del Campo (married to Juan Antonio Ximenes de Castro), who
was the mother of Juan de Dios Ximenes de Castro (married to Luisa
Padilla), who was the father of Maria Dolores Ximenes (bride).
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Thomas Martin del Campo/Juana Flores were also the parents of
Cecilia Martin del Campo (married to Jose Gutierres), who was the
mother of Antonio Abad Gutierres (married to Catarina Ramires), who
was the father of Juan Antonio Ramires (groom).
Gutierres tree: (Some dispensas list Francisca Gutierres as the daughter
of Francisco Gutierres, the brother of Juan Gutierres).
Juan Gutierres/Ana Camacho were the parents of Cristoval Gutierres
(married to Maria de Laris), who was the father of Jose Gutierres
(married to Cecilia Martin del Campo), who was the father of Antonio
Gutierres (married to Catarina Ramires), who was the father of Juan
Antonio Gutierres (groom).
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Juan Gutierres/Ana Camacho were the also the parents of Francisca
Gutierres (married to Juan de Dios Ximenes), who was the mother of
Juan Antonio Ximenes (married to Clara Martin del Campo), who was
the father of Juan de Dios Ximenes (married to Luisa Padilla), who was
the father of Maria de los Dolores (bride).
Padilla Tree: (Believe Christoval Padilla/Luisa Gutierres should be at the
head of this tree, based on other known dipensas, the father of both
Joseefa Padilla (married to Jose Ximenes) and Luisa Padilla (married
to Juan de Dios Ximenes).
Actual Padilla tree: (Parents not listed)
Josefa Padilla/Jose Ximenes were the parents of Antonio Ximenes
(married to Luisa Aceves), who was the father of Rosalia Ximenes
(deceased 1st wife of Groom).
Cristoval Padilla/Luisa Gutierres were the parents of Luisa Padilla
(married to Juan de Dios Ximenes), who was the mother of Maria
de los Dolores Ximenes (bride).
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1774 San Juan de los Lagos
Marriage dispensation for Christoval Gutierres de Mendoza and Maria
Cecilia de la Trindad Munos
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Note: There are 4 family trees in this dispensation. All trees are preceded
by a detailed listing of each relation, most complete with both husband
and wife, making these trees very informative. The four trees involve
the Flores, Ramires, Munos de la Barba, and Martin del Campo families.
The trees are not without error, with 2 of the 4 trees with significant
errors. The Martin del Campo and Munos de la Barba trees appear to
be complete and without error. The Flores tree has errors involving
Diego Flores and Juan Flores, which will be explained. The Ramires
tree does not appear to be complete or related in the 4th degree, in part
because of the errors with Diego Flores, mentioned above.
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The bride/groom were distantly related as follows:
Martin del Campo family:
Lazaro Martin del Campo/Maria Lopes were the parents of Thomas
Martin del Campo (married to Juana Flores), who was the father of
Cecilia Martin del Campo (married to Joseph Gutierres), who was
the mother of Antonio Gutierres (married to Catarina Ramires), who
were the parents of Christoval Gutierres (groom).
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Lazaro Martin del Campo/Maria Lopes were also the parents of Antonia
Martin del Campo (married to Luis Munos de la Barba), who was the
mother of Diego Munos de la Barba (married to Antonia Gomes), who
was the father of Juan Munos de la Barba (married to Luisa Fernandes
[de Rueda]), who were the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba (bride).
Munos de la Barba family:
Joseph Munos de la Barba/Catarina Ramires were the parents of Francisca
Munos de la Barba (married to Nicolas Ramires), who was the mother of
Juan Ramires (married to Rosa Reynoso), who was the father of Antonio
Gutierres (married to Catarina Ramires), who were the parents of
Chrisoval Gutierres (groom).
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Joseph Munos de la Barba/Catarina Ramires were also the parents of Luis
Munos de la Barba (married to Antonia Martin del Campo), who was the
father Diego Munos de la Barba (married to Antonia Gomes), who was
the father of Juan Munos de la Barba (married to Luisa [F]ernandes de
Rueda), who were the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba (bride).
Flores de la Torre family tree:
The head of this tree is stated to be Juan Flores de la Torre (wife not named).
Other known parish records place the head of this tree to be Diego Flores de
la Torre (who was married to Teresa Gonsales Ramires de Hermosillo). The
cleric listed Diego Flores de la Torre / Teresa Gonsales as a son of Juan Flores
de la Torre, which is incorrect. Diego Flores de la Torre (married to Teresa
Gonsales Ramires de Hermosillo) was the son of Diego Flores de la Torre
(married to Ysabel de Arias Orosco). The parish marriage record of Cecilia
Flores de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]erandes de Rueda]) clearly listed
the parents of Cecilia Flores de la Torre to be Diego Flores de la Torre and
Cecilia Tavera.
The incorrect Flores de la Torre tree:
Juan Flores de la Torre was the father of Juana Flores de la Torre (married to
Thomas Martin del Campo), who was the mother of Cecilia Martin del Campo
(married to Joseph Gutierres), who was the mother of Antonio Gutierres
(married to Catarina Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo), who were the parents
of Christoval Gutierres (groom).
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Juan Flores de la Torre was the father of Diego Flores de la Torre (married to
Teresa Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo), who was the father of Cecilia Flores
de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]ernandes de Rueda), who was the mother
of Luisa [F]ernandes de Rueda (married to Juan Munos de la Barba), who were
the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba (bride).
The corrected Flores de la Torre tree:
Diego Flores de la Torre/Teresa Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo were the
parents of Juana Flores de la Torre (married to Thomas Martin del Campo),
who was the mother of Cecilia Martin del Campo (married to Joseph
Gutierres), who was the mother of Antonio Gutierres (married to Catarina
Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo), who were the parents of Christoval
Gutierres (groom).
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Diego Flores de la Torre/Teresa Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo were also
the parents of Diego Flores de la Torre (married to Cecilia Tavera), who was
the father of Cecilia Flores de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]ernandes de
Rueda), who was the mother of Luisa [F]ernandes de Rueda (married to Juan
Munos de la Barba), who were the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba
(bride).
Ramires family tree:
Because the cleric listed the incorrect head of the Flores de la Torre tree in this
dispensation, the Ramires tree is also incorrect. The Right side of the tree is
correct, and the left side of the tree is correct up to and including Cecilia Flores
de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]ernandes de Rueda). Omit Teresa Ramires
Gonsales de Hermosillo as the mother of Cecilia Flores de la Torre, and the
tree is correct (but not directly related in the 4th degree as stated).
The incorrect tree:
Alonso Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo was the father of Nicolas Ramires
Gonsales de Hermosillo (married to Francisca Munos de la Barba), who
was the father of Juan Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo (married to Rosa
Reynoso), who was the father of Antonio Gutierres (married to Catarina
Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo), who were the parents of Christoval
Gutierres (groom).
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Alonso Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo was also the father of Teresa Ramires
Gonsales de Hermosillo (married to Diego Flores de la Torre), who was the
mother of Cecilia Flores de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]ernandes de
Rueda), who was the mother of Luisa [F]ernandes de Rueda (married to
Juan Munos de la Barba), who were the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba
(bride).
The correct tree:
Alonso Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo was the father of Nicolas Ramires
Gonsales de Hermosillo (married to Francisca Munos de la Barba), who
was the father of Juan Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo (married to Rosa
Reynoso), who was the father of Antonio Gutierres (married to Catarina
Ramires Gonsales de Hermosillo), who were the parents of Christoval
Gutierres (groom).
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Cecilia Flores de la Torre (married to Francisco [F]ernandes de Rueda), who
was the mother of Luisa [F]ernandes de Rueda (married to Juan Munos de la
Barba), who were the parents of Cecilia Munos de la Barba (bride).
Note this tree has no relation to Alonso Ramires Gonsales to Hermosillo on
left side of tree.
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1790 San Juan de los Lago marriage dispensation for Manuel Padilla
and Juana Gutierres
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Guadalajara > Diócesis de Guadalajara > image 502 of 973
1787 San Juan de los Lagos marriage dispensation for Jose Gonsales de
Hermosillo and Maria Josefa Martin del Campo (Jose was a widow,
previously married to Ygnacia Munos)
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